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gryfndor_godess ([personal profile] gryfndor_godess) wrote2011-06-13 09:27 pm
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Question for Spuffy Fans

I typically don’t stray outside Spuffy fandom on LJ, but the impression I’ve gotten over the past few months (and it could be wrong) is that S8- and let’s face it, mostly #39-40, ‘cause they were fine with the spacefrak- caused many Bangel fans disavow the comics, change their tune on the comics’ canonicity, or simply lose interest in the ship and series because they were so disgusted. It also seems as though even fans who didn’t like the comics to begin with have been turned off of fandom.

I don’t expect Spuffy to end up happily ever after.  However, I also can't imagine Buffy and Spike ever fading into a lukewarm, 100% platonic relationship.  So that begs the question, what will Joss do to ensure that they cannot be happy together?  Knowing the way Joss’s twisted little mind works, part of me thinks he’ll set up Spuffy on a grand scale only to knock it down in a horrible fashion, a la Twangel, so as to put both ships on even, scorched earth. Frankly, I’m not sure that Joss could ever do anything to destroy Spuffy as thoroughly as Bangel has been destroyed because Spike and Buffy have already dragged each other to hell and back. Barring Spike killing Dawn or actually raping Buffy, I’m not sure what he could do that would betray Buffy as much as Angel betrayed her (although I’ve probably jinxed it now that I’ve said that).

In any case, let’s suppose that Joss does his worst and ruins Spuffy as horribly as Bangel has been ruined- that Spike betrays Buffy as badly as Angel did. My question is, how would you, as a Spuffy fan, react? Would you be able to stay in fandom as usual and love Spuffy- TV Spuffy, S8 Spuffy, your own version of Spuffy, etc.- as whole-heartedly as ever? Would you be able to ignore the comics? Or would you be so disgusted that it would tarnish your love for any kind of Spuffy and make you want to leave fandom?

I’m not certain what effect it would have on me, but I think my Spuffy love would survive the trauma. Barring a miracle movie or show with all the actors, for me, canon will always have ended with NFA; so while I enjoyed the lovely Spuffy bits in S8, I wasn't and still am not heavily invested in the comics. However, I know there are Spuffy fans who take the comics a heck of a lot more seriously.

In conclusion, thoughts please: Whether you’re a fan of the comics or not, would a Spuffy implosion of Twangel proportions in the comics hurt your love? How do you think it would affect our awesome corner of fandom?

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2011-06-14 09:46 am (UTC)(link)
Frankly, I’m not sure that Joss could ever do anything to destroy Spuffy as thoroughly as Bangel has been destroyed because Spike and Buffy have already dragged each other to hell and back. Barring Spike killing Dawn or actually raping Buffy, I’m not sure what he could do that would betray Buffy as much as Angel betrayed her (although I’ve probably jinxed it now that I’ve said that).

Yeah, IA.

I'm one of the few who IS currently enjoying the S/B (I refuse to use that portmanteau...) in the comics at the moment, which no doubt is indicative of my complete apathy about them getting a happy ending, but I guess I'm not that invested. If they ARE ruined in S9 or whatever, I'll probably be pissed, but it won't affect my view of them in the show. That part is still perfect. :)

[identity profile] gryfndor-godess.livejournal.com 2011-06-15 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, do you never use the term 'Spuffy'? Somehow I've missed that.

it won't affect my view of them in the show. That part is still perfect. :)

:D Music to my ears.

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2011-06-15 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
lol, I despise ship portmanteaus as a general rule. Especially 'Spuffy', which I cannot say without lol'ing at myself. But, um, my ish. Carry on!

[identity profile] gryfndor-godess.livejournal.com 2011-06-15 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I understand the LOLing. 'Spuffy' sounds like a weak, unevolved Pokemon, and 'Bangel' always makes me think 'bagel' instead. I learned about the Spuffy and Bangel nicknames long before I even learned that ship nicknames were a 'thing,' though, so they've stuck with me. Also, I have this paranoia of calling them B/S by accident and non-shippers mocking it for being that other thing that BS stands for and yeah, I'm a little strange.

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2011-06-15 02:46 pm (UTC)(link)
'Spuffy' sounds like a weak, unevolved Pokemon, and 'Bangel' always makes me think 'bagel' instead.

L O L F O R E V E R

I HAVE THE SAME CONCERN. Which is why I go with S/B. No unfortunate acronyms happening there, I don't think...

[identity profile] eilowyn.livejournal.com 2011-06-16 05:10 am (UTC)(link)
*takes a deep breath*

VERONILOGAN KARLEE (or Apollbuck) DELENA PETEGGY AND SPUFFY!

There. I translated all your favorite ships into obnoxious portmanteaux!

(I snark because I love.)

[identity profile] ever-neutral.livejournal.com 2011-06-16 06:24 am (UTC)(link)
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Also, everybody knows it's LoVe, DUH.

[identity profile] eilowyn.livejournal.com 2011-06-16 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
I know! I was going for the most obnoxious portmanteaux possible!
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[personal profile] rahirah 2011-06-15 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh! I don't think anyone cares today, but Way Back When your fear of mockage if you used B/S instead of S/B would not have been unjustified. (Yeah, we were all twelve. Or no, we weren't, which makes it all considerably sadder. *g*)

[identity profile] gryfndor-godess.livejournal.com 2011-06-15 06:23 pm (UTC)(link)
:) I figured some Bangels took full advantage of mocking B/S in times past.

[identity profile] penny-lane-42.livejournal.com 2011-06-15 01:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I like when other people say what I'm thinking so that I don't have to. It lets me be lazy, which I am very good at.