That's the scene I always skip as well but the rest of it I pretty much enjoy. Even the scene with Buffy and Rj - I didn't realize that (as a feminist) it should have squicked me out until I got into fandom reactions. Watching it by myself, it was just - IDK, I know about the rape/violation issues, and bad on them for playing them for laughs. ON the other hand (unlike the spacefrak) there is absolutely no question here who is responsible for Buffy's state, or indeed that she is bespelled; there's stereotypical romance novel fruit and cloth around them which reminds me of a similar layout in Helpless when Buffy and Angel were sparring in lieu of sex; and Xander being the adult and having the edge of the jocks who used to make fun of him: "It's called a classroom, you chowderhead!" I love that bit, and have no idea why.
I think if the ep were played for drama rather than comedy I'd object to it more? Which probably isn't a good thing I admit, because a lot of comedy in tv/films is full of misogynistic messages.
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Date: 2012-12-12 06:59 pm (UTC)That's the scene I always skip as well but the rest of it I pretty much enjoy. Even the scene with Buffy and Rj - I didn't realize that (as a feminist) it should have squicked me out until I got into fandom reactions. Watching it by myself, it was just - IDK, I know about the rape/violation issues, and bad on them for playing them for laughs. ON the other hand (unlike the spacefrak) there is absolutely no question here who is responsible for Buffy's state, or indeed that she is bespelled; there's stereotypical romance novel fruit and cloth around them which reminds me of a similar layout in Helpless when Buffy and Angel were sparring in lieu of sex; and Xander being the adult and having the edge of the jocks who used to make fun of him: "It's called a classroom, you chowderhead!" I love that bit, and have no idea why.
I think if the ep were played for drama rather than comedy I'd object to it more? Which probably isn't a good thing I admit, because a lot of comedy in tv/films is full of misogynistic messages.
But I still like that episode. My bad?