We see him immediately start drinking from his first panel at the party (he is holding a beer bottle while telling his season 4 tale) and then with another drink as he complains about the bugs to Tumble
I like your analysis of it. None of the panels reminded me of his sloppy inebriation in "Entropy" (he always seemed like more of a depressed drunk than a happy drunk to me, although that could just be because he was depressed in general at the time), but I see your point in how they're consistent about showing him drinking and making strange comments that imply he's becoming more and more intoxicated.
Drunk Buffy came onto drunk Spike and he couldn't say no?
I'd be okay with that if they made it blindingly clear that he was drunk, too. It's not my ideal version of their reunion, but I could live with it. :)
I don't see it as (statutory) rape if drunk Buffy and drunk guy had sex, because I dunno...maybe it's wrong, but I just thought that was a normal thing. A mistake that party goers make sometimes, something that just happens. You get drunk, you see something you like and the drunk guy wants it too and in the morning you both regret, but...maybe I'm too liberal? I just don't see it as a big deal.
Oh, no, I totally agree that it's not rape (statutory or otherwise) if they're both drunk! I should have been clearer. I would be completely fine with the conception if it happened while both Buffy and the father were completely intoxicated.
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Date: 2012-02-26 02:26 pm (UTC)I like your analysis of it. None of the panels reminded me of his sloppy inebriation in "Entropy" (he always seemed like more of a depressed drunk than a happy drunk to me, although that could just be because he was depressed in general at the time), but I see your point in how they're consistent about showing him drinking and making strange comments that imply he's becoming more and more intoxicated.
Drunk Buffy came onto drunk Spike and he couldn't say no?
I'd be okay with that if they made it blindingly clear that he was drunk, too. It's not my ideal version of their reunion, but I could live with it. :)
I don't see it as (statutory) rape if drunk Buffy and drunk guy had sex, because I dunno...maybe it's wrong, but I just thought that was a normal thing. A mistake that party goers make sometimes, something that just happens. You get drunk, you see something you like and the drunk guy wants it too and in the morning you both regret, but...maybe I'm too liberal? I just don't see it as a big deal.
Oh, no, I totally agree that it's not rape (statutory or otherwise) if they're both drunk! I should have been clearer. I would be completely fine with the conception if it happened while both Buffy and the father were completely intoxicated.