I'm scared of next Sunday
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gryfndor_godessI just found out on Tumblr about the third (four? fifth? third for shows I care about, but I heard a few other ladies were fridged this week) major character death this week, and I am reeling.
I don't even know how to do a read-more cut for this because obviously just saying what shows they are is a spoiler. If you're on Tumblr chances are you'll have heard about all three of these, so I'm not going to name names, just, spoilers for several popular TV shows beneath the cut!
WHY THE FUCK IS WILL GARDNER DEAD. WHY THE FUCK WOULD WILL CHARLES LEAVE TGW, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. Okay, maybe I can understand because apparently he chose to leave at the end of S4 and IIRC that was the year that quality slipped a bit, but this year has supposedly been stellar, and he was nominated for a Globe, and I just WHY. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO YOUR FANS.
I didn't think that anyone could hurt more than Beverly this week, but I've known Will longer, and I'm just in utter shock. I'm appalled. I can't even be happy that for once a man was fridged (literally, the writing team have talked about how his death will propel Alicia's journey the way we usually hear about female deaths propelling men's; I don't think it's a coincidence that one of the TGW co-showrunners is female) because I really liked this man. This is the kind of show that I fell in and out of love with, where I watched the first season in like a month and then didn't pick it up again for 6 months, but I still own 3 seasons and have always been planning to watch it. Regardless of the slow periods, it was always on my must-see list, and now I don't know if I'll be able to bear it. Obviously I love it for the women, who will continue to be amazing, but I also loved it for Alicia/Will, and knowing that he's going to die, I just- I just don't know. And I just can't believe that this phenomenal show that I've been planning to watch for years was ruined for me. In an instant.
BEVERLY. I don't know why I was surprised. I guess I shouldn't have been, given the goddamn name of the show. But I really thought they weren't going to kill a major character? At least until Jack gets it anyway, which I was prepared to be upset about, but now I'll probably just feel hollow. And if he does survive I'll probably be too bitter to be happy.
I didn't even realize at first that she was actually dead because it's off-screen (though heavily implied, but you know what they say about TV, if you don't see the body it didn't actually happen!) and I didn't see the AV Club Bryan Fuller article until Sunday. I was texting my friend on Saturday about how I didn't think the writing was too awful and I didn't hate it on a Watsonian level even though it's obviously problematic on a Doyleist level and how maybe Hannibal was OOC and kept her prisoner instead of eating her...and then I read the Fuller interview and felt so stupid and naive and betrayed. Apparently she was supposed to die in S1, so I guess I should be grateful that we got these four episodes. But she was so good in them, and her arc was just taking off, and now she's dead?? And we're going to get Will and Jack's manpain instead? NO THANK YOU.
With Beverly and now with Will I keep thinking oh, it has to be a joke...they'll do something hokey to bring them back and it'll be stupid but no one will care because we love the characters so much...but that's not going to happen, and it feels like a punch in the chest.
At least with SPN (obligatory: fuck you, Carver and co.) it's fantasy, so when your favorites die you can head-canon up a resurrection. Not so much with Hannibal and TGW.
And lastly TW, which I don't watch but was thinking about finally starting, after two years of waffling because all of the lady-love and recent Scott McCall love on my dash was wearing down my antipathy toward werewolf stories. I know it was Crystal's choice to leave (WHY ARE ALL THESE ACTORS QUITTING, DON'T ANSWER THAT, I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE JEFF DAVIS SUCK, BUT WHAT'S YOUR EXCUSE, WILL CHARLES, WHY), but everything I've read about Jeff Davis and the handling of it makes it seem like a huge, misogynistic, badly handled clusterfuck, and I think that show might be ruined for me, too.
Now I'm even more nervous about the TWD finale, which is this coming Sunday, and I was already anxious because my favorite said the stupidest thing last night.
If you're reading this you're probably aware that I have a *little* (cough) obsession with Bela Talbot and by extension Lauren Cohan and by extension Maggie Green (whom I love in her own right, don't get me wrong, but I definitely started watched TWD for Bela reasons), and I have mentioned on Tumblr before how scared I am that she or Glenn (her husband) will die in TWD. Early in this season there was a lovely moment where Glenn found a Polaroid camera, and while Maggie was sleeping he took a photo of her. Naturally, since it's the zombie apocalypse, there aren't a lot of opportunities to get photos of your loved ones, so this one was special, and he's had it with him the last few episodes while he's been searching for her. Well, last night they were finally reunited, and what did she do, she fucking burned the photo. After saying "You'll never need a photo of me again."
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU SAY THAT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHOW YOU'RE IN, DO YOU REALIZE YOU'RE IN A ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE AND THAT IS LIKE DARING THE GODS TO SEND SOMETHING TO EAT YOU.
LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, THAT IS NOT ROMANTIC, YOU DON'T SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT'S FORESHADOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KILL LAUREN COHAN THIS SUNDAY, AND I JUST CAN'T TAKE THAT.
I thought I had to be scared of Glenn dying because in the comics (which I haven't read because they sound gruesome and disturbing and awful, and yes I realize the irony in sounding judgey like that that when I watch a a show about Hannibal fucking Lector, but I've read about some of what happens on Wiki) he's brutally beaten to death by an enemy faction. And the whole season has been heading toward them meeting up with a new faction, so I've been scared that this is when Glenn gets it. But now I'm thinking they're going to kill Maggie instead. One of the interviews I read weeks ago mentioned something about loosely following the comics but changing up some of the live-or-die details, and they've definitely already done that (in the second to last BRILLIANT BEYOND BRILLIANT, OMG I LOVED IT episode), but now I'm scared they've only just started and Maggie's going to die next.
Nobody died in the penultimate, and a major character has been killed in the penultimate episode in every other season, so I'm expecting something especially horrifying to happen in the finale.
I don't want to Glenn to die (I don't want ANYONE to die) because (a) I love him and (b) I can't bear to watch what that would do to Maggie, but if it comes down to Maggie or Glenn, I'd rather keep Maggie. But please oh please let them both live.
Also, if Maggie doesn't die, I'm suddenly and irrationally afraid that Beth, her younger sister, will. Because apparently there are cannibals in the comics (I don't know why this didn't occur to me before, of course there are going to be non-zombie cannibals in the zombie apocalypse), and there has to be something messed up about Terminus, and Beth was kidnapped a few episodes ago, and what if Terminus people took her and killed her and Rick and co. find out they've been eating her?
Okay, that is probably not going to happen, but I'm super paranoid now, and I can deal with cannibalism on Hannibal because it's Hannibal Lector for chrissakes, but I care more about Rick and co.'s mental health re: accidentally eating people than Jack and co.'s, and also, BETH IS NOT FOR EATING.
Of course, WE SEE HOW WELL THAT TURNED OUT FOR BEVERLY.
It's not even May. Why is killing off major characters during non-sweeps week becoming the new normal? It's not fair.
In conclusion: Except for when John Ritter and Dax died, my life was much less stressful when the only TV I watched was Star Trek and ABC Family/Disney Channel shows.
And also, I might go off the deep end this coming Sunday.
I don't even know how to do a read-more cut for this because obviously just saying what shows they are is a spoiler. If you're on Tumblr chances are you'll have heard about all three of these, so I'm not going to name names, just, spoilers for several popular TV shows beneath the cut!
WHY THE FUCK IS WILL GARDNER DEAD. WHY THE FUCK WOULD WILL CHARLES LEAVE TGW, I DON'T UNDERSTAND. Okay, maybe I can understand because apparently he chose to leave at the end of S4 and IIRC that was the year that quality slipped a bit, but this year has supposedly been stellar, and he was nominated for a Globe, and I just WHY. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO YOUR FANS.
I didn't think that anyone could hurt more than Beverly this week, but I've known Will longer, and I'm just in utter shock. I'm appalled. I can't even be happy that for once a man was fridged (literally, the writing team have talked about how his death will propel Alicia's journey the way we usually hear about female deaths propelling men's; I don't think it's a coincidence that one of the TGW co-showrunners is female) because I really liked this man. This is the kind of show that I fell in and out of love with, where I watched the first season in like a month and then didn't pick it up again for 6 months, but I still own 3 seasons and have always been planning to watch it. Regardless of the slow periods, it was always on my must-see list, and now I don't know if I'll be able to bear it. Obviously I love it for the women, who will continue to be amazing, but I also loved it for Alicia/Will, and knowing that he's going to die, I just- I just don't know. And I just can't believe that this phenomenal show that I've been planning to watch for years was ruined for me. In an instant.
BEVERLY. I don't know why I was surprised. I guess I shouldn't have been, given the goddamn name of the show. But I really thought they weren't going to kill a major character? At least until Jack gets it anyway, which I was prepared to be upset about, but now I'll probably just feel hollow. And if he does survive I'll probably be too bitter to be happy.
I didn't even realize at first that she was actually dead because it's off-screen (though heavily implied, but you know what they say about TV, if you don't see the body it didn't actually happen!) and I didn't see the AV Club Bryan Fuller article until Sunday. I was texting my friend on Saturday about how I didn't think the writing was too awful and I didn't hate it on a Watsonian level even though it's obviously problematic on a Doyleist level and how maybe Hannibal was OOC and kept her prisoner instead of eating her...and then I read the Fuller interview and felt so stupid and naive and betrayed. Apparently she was supposed to die in S1, so I guess I should be grateful that we got these four episodes. But she was so good in them, and her arc was just taking off, and now she's dead?? And we're going to get Will and Jack's manpain instead? NO THANK YOU.
With Beverly and now with Will I keep thinking oh, it has to be a joke...they'll do something hokey to bring them back and it'll be stupid but no one will care because we love the characters so much...but that's not going to happen, and it feels like a punch in the chest.
At least with SPN (obligatory: fuck you, Carver and co.) it's fantasy, so when your favorites die you can head-canon up a resurrection. Not so much with Hannibal and TGW.
And lastly TW, which I don't watch but was thinking about finally starting, after two years of waffling because all of the lady-love and recent Scott McCall love on my dash was wearing down my antipathy toward werewolf stories. I know it was Crystal's choice to leave (WHY ARE ALL THESE ACTORS QUITTING, DON'T ANSWER THAT, I KNOW IT'S PROBABLY BECAUSE JEFF DAVIS SUCK, BUT WHAT'S YOUR EXCUSE, WILL CHARLES, WHY), but everything I've read about Jeff Davis and the handling of it makes it seem like a huge, misogynistic, badly handled clusterfuck, and I think that show might be ruined for me, too.
Now I'm even more nervous about the TWD finale, which is this coming Sunday, and I was already anxious because my favorite said the stupidest thing last night.
If you're reading this you're probably aware that I have a *little* (cough) obsession with Bela Talbot and by extension Lauren Cohan and by extension Maggie Green (whom I love in her own right, don't get me wrong, but I definitely started watched TWD for Bela reasons), and I have mentioned on Tumblr before how scared I am that she or Glenn (her husband) will die in TWD. Early in this season there was a lovely moment where Glenn found a Polaroid camera, and while Maggie was sleeping he took a photo of her. Naturally, since it's the zombie apocalypse, there aren't a lot of opportunities to get photos of your loved ones, so this one was special, and he's had it with him the last few episodes while he's been searching for her. Well, last night they were finally reunited, and what did she do, she fucking burned the photo. After saying "You'll never need a photo of me again."
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU SAY THAT, DO YOU KNOW WHAT SHOW YOU'RE IN, DO YOU REALIZE YOU'RE IN A ZOMBIE APOCALYPSE AND THAT IS LIKE DARING THE GODS TO SEND SOMETHING TO EAT YOU.
LIKE WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, THAT IS NOT ROMANTIC, YOU DON'T SAY SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
I THINK IT'S FORESHADOWING THAT THEY'RE GOING TO KILL LAUREN COHAN THIS SUNDAY, AND I JUST CAN'T TAKE THAT.
I thought I had to be scared of Glenn dying because in the comics (which I haven't read because they sound gruesome and disturbing and awful, and yes I realize the irony in sounding judgey like that that when I watch a a show about Hannibal fucking Lector, but I've read about some of what happens on Wiki) he's brutally beaten to death by an enemy faction. And the whole season has been heading toward them meeting up with a new faction, so I've been scared that this is when Glenn gets it. But now I'm thinking they're going to kill Maggie instead. One of the interviews I read weeks ago mentioned something about loosely following the comics but changing up some of the live-or-die details, and they've definitely already done that (in the second to last BRILLIANT BEYOND BRILLIANT, OMG I LOVED IT episode), but now I'm scared they've only just started and Maggie's going to die next.
Nobody died in the penultimate, and a major character has been killed in the penultimate episode in every other season, so I'm expecting something especially horrifying to happen in the finale.
I don't want to Glenn to die (I don't want ANYONE to die) because (a) I love him and (b) I can't bear to watch what that would do to Maggie, but if it comes down to Maggie or Glenn, I'd rather keep Maggie. But please oh please let them both live.
Also, if Maggie doesn't die, I'm suddenly and irrationally afraid that Beth, her younger sister, will. Because apparently there are cannibals in the comics (I don't know why this didn't occur to me before, of course there are going to be non-zombie cannibals in the zombie apocalypse), and there has to be something messed up about Terminus, and Beth was kidnapped a few episodes ago, and what if Terminus people took her and killed her and Rick and co. find out they've been eating her?
Okay, that is probably not going to happen, but I'm super paranoid now, and I can deal with cannibalism on Hannibal because it's Hannibal Lector for chrissakes, but I care more about Rick and co.'s mental health re: accidentally eating people than Jack and co.'s, and also, BETH IS NOT FOR EATING.
Of course, WE SEE HOW WELL THAT TURNED OUT FOR BEVERLY.
It's not even May. Why is killing off major characters during non-sweeps week becoming the new normal? It's not fair.
In conclusion: Except for when John Ritter and Dax died, my life was much less stressful when the only TV I watched was Star Trek and ABC Family/Disney Channel shows.
And also, I might go off the deep end this coming Sunday.
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Date: 2014-03-25 04:54 am (UTC)STARLING CITYTHE SUNSET? And I'm behind on The Walking Dead, but I decided to wait until after the finale to catch up because I really don't want to get invested in Bethyl (I know I'm behind, but I've already checked out the Beth/Daryl fic. I have premeditated shipping issues), and the thought of Maggie or Glenn going is DEVASTATING.Haven't gotten into Hannibal, but Friday night my Tumblr dash was freaking out over Beverly. And someone I liked died in the Veronica Mars movie. Luckily I never got into The Good Wife (always in my to download top 10, but something shiny always caught my attention).
I will say something I just finished watching didn't have any devastating deaths. True Detective is one of the most well-crafted shows I've seen in a long time. It gets icky at times, but everything else about it is solid.
I'm trying to think of anything devastating when all I watched was Friday evening T.G.I.F on ABC. Cory and Topanga's brief breakup was pretty hard on me. John Ritter was sad. Mr. Roeper on Sesame Street was sad.
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Date: 2014-03-25 11:39 am (UTC)I saw on your tags this weekend that you hadn't gotten into Hannibal, and I'd been meaning to tell you, I know you have enough academic projects on your plate to last for a few years, but if you ever feel like getting into another fandom, I think Hannibal would be perfect for your studies because the interaction between creators and fans is off the charts (er, in my unprofessional, humble opinion), and they use social media in really interesting ways.
Luckily I never got into The Good Wife
Ugh, I hate that I can't say anymore, "But it's so good! You have to watch! You'll love it!" I mean, I think all those things are true for the first 4.5 seasons, but I honestly don't know if the joy is worth the eventual heartache. :/
I will say something I just finished watching didn't have any devastating deaths. True Detective is one of the most well-crafted shows I've seen in a long time.
That's what I've heard, and I'm impressed that they didn't kill anyone, but I doubt I'll be watching it anytime soon because I'm really not a McConaughey fan, and I don't want to watch Woody Harrelson play an a-hole (I guess he normally does, but I've heard that Marty is particularly awful). But IDK, my sister was obsessed with it, so maybe she'll want me to watch it with her.
And someone I liked died in the Veronica Mars movie.
What!! I didn't know that. I'd have thought my dash would freak out more. *covers ears and maybe eyes* I still need to watch the show/movie, so I'm going to try to stay away from that spoiler.
Ooo I remember being devastated by Cory and Topanga's break-up, too. That was awful.
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Date: 2014-03-25 02:31 pm (UTC)Seriously fuck everything (I'm a little behind of TWD but I'm starting to care less and less about this show) TGW is awesome but WILL. PLEASE NO.
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Date: 2014-03-26 02:52 am (UTC)