Meme stolen from everyone

[gryfndor_godess]

Finally caving and doing this because I want a distraction from studying:

Comment with any ship (romantic or platonic or maybe even non-existent!) from a fandom that you know I have some knowledge about, and I will rant about aforementioned ship. This may be incoherent gushing or exclamations of disgust, depending on your ship of choice.

Fandoms I can gush/rant about: Harry Potter, BtVS, Angel, HIMYM, Bones, The Big Bang Theory, Castle, Cougar Town, BSG, Friends, Firefly, Dollhouse, The Guild, Arrested Development

Comments

[bluemage55.livejournal.com]

Angel/Spike!

Your call whether you rant about them as a romantic, platonic, or crack!ship. :P

[gryfndor-godess.livejournal.com]

I LOVE THEM. And a good way to sum up my opinion is that I don't think you can just talk about them in platonic or romantic terms. They've meant so much to each other over the years that I think you have to consider both. Granted, it's not a romantic love as in "I would choose you over anyone else to spend the rest of my life with," but I think they do love each other, would die for each other, and there's certainly a sexual undertone to their chemistry (as Spike admits in "Power Play"; they totally did it when they were evil, and more than once). We mostly get snarking in S5 because their presence in each other's lives is so new and unexpected and they're used to acting like they despise each other, but once they become accustomed to each other and remember what they have in common, you see that they really do care. Frex, Angel automatically refers to Spike as a fellow champion in TGIQ.

From individual perspectives, I think Spike truly did loathe Angelus as much as he looked up to him, and I think he looks up to Angel more than he would admit. He certainly sees Angel's flaws (and points them out) more than most people, but he also understands the choices Angel has made.

I think Angel also cares about Spike more than he would admit and views him as family. There's a father-son vibe as well as a brother vibe, and if Angel and Spike were stuck together post-NFA, I think Angel's protectiveness would come out a lot more as time went on. This beautiful fic, http://cindergal.livejournal.com/11571.html, though AU, is how I think Angel would eventually feel/act.

So, yes, I adore them. I adore S5 specifically because of Spike and how fantastic he and Angel are (JM and David Boreanaz are on fire together), and I will never understand the complaints that Spike ruined the season- he pretty much singlehandedly saved the show after the trainwreck that was S4, imo. I adore their arguments in "Just Rewards," I salivate over the epic fight in "Destiny" and the William-Angelus flashbacks, the astronaut-caveman argument makes me giddy, I love when Angel admits to liking Spike's poetry, and TGIQ makes me flail incoherently. I love them together. They're not my OTP, of course, but they're the only ship that I think might possibly have equal, or more, chemistry than Spuffy (that is how much I love them). And if Buffy were unavailable, I'd want Spike and Angel to be platonic-romantic life partners.

[smells_corrupt.livejournal.com]

*butts in with an inane comment*

I now have to start looking for other ships to refer to as "platonic-romantic life partners." just so I can use "platonic-romantic life partners" in a sentence. :)

*this has been an inane comment. Back to work everyone.*

[gryfndor-godess.livejournal.com]

Haha, I like your inane comment. That description is totally an oxymoron, but I think it fits them accurately. You'll have to let me know if you find other ships. :D

[smells_corrupt.livejournal.com]

If I can't find ships, I may just use it on real people.
RL friend: the new guy at work is so cute! We have so much in common!
Me: you should be platonic-romantic life partners!
RLF: yeah! Wait. What?
Me: *grins*

[gryfndor-godess.livejournal.com]

Lol, DO IT.

[bluemage55.livejournal.com]

We mostly get snarking in S5 because their presence in each other's lives is so new and unexpected and they're used to acting like they despise each other

I wouldn't be too surprised if they kept up the snarking for all eternity, post-romance or not. :P

This beautiful fic, http://cindergal.livejournal.com/11571.html, though AU, is how I think Angel would eventually feel/act.

"His boy" expresses it quite nicely. Thanks for the lovely fic rec, and the rant!

[gryfndor-godess.livejournal.com]

I'm sure they would snark forever. Keeps the magic alive.

My pleasure! Glad you enjoyed the fic, too. :)